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monstersandcritics.com MGS4 Review

When it comes to videogame reviewing, critics should exercise a degree of professional subjectivity by not appraising games for the sake of peer conformity; nor should they review games while focusing only on appeasing the demands of hardcore franchise fanatics. However, by that token, reviewers should also resist the temptation to unfairly kneecap a high-profile release just for the sake of standing out from the critical crowd.

It's not an easy line to walk at the best of times.

In short, videogame reviewers should be reviewing for all gamers, providing unbiased evaluations based solely on what is put before them while striving to avoid the often weighted influence of popular opinion. Which leaves this particular reviewer somewhat aghast at the current flood of rampant praise that is being heaped at the feet of Konami's Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Jamie Foxx5778d ago (Edited 5778d ago )

i guess this site really really wants to get noticed ,desperate sites......you gotta laugh

LordXenu5778d ago

but unfortunately this site is not listed at meta/gr

c64days5778d ago

what ppl will do to get some "raging" for there site ;-)

thewhoopimen5778d ago

"When it comes to videogame reviewing, critics should exercise a degree of professional subjectivity by not appraising games for the sake of peer conformity"

So... is that why you differentiate yourself by putting 79/100 vs 80/100? lol. Why not go down to 69/100 and let your balls really hang out?

Man

Millah5778d ago

You gotta love these ignorant reviewers that are trying to make themselves stand out and look more "professional." I mean you gotta be kidding me, praising a game that is great is just conformity?? Is that a joke? What if a game really is good and deserves praise? So if most people agree that a great game really is that great, that just means they are all conforming with each other? GTFOH, these no-name review sites (and a lot of reviewers in general) are becoming a complete joke.

Nobody has a problem when people praise hugely popular games like Halo 3 (which in that case seems more of a conformity issue than anything), but when a game that is truly different and tries to go against the sea of garbage trends in the industry, and really turn out to be groundbreaking and revolutionary, and these games get shat on by these so-called professionals trying to look more mature than the big name sites like GS and IGN.

Lol I mean come on, please spare me the laughter. I wonder if Ocarina of Time had so much controversy around its numerous perfect scores and praises of being the greatest game ever made. Probably not, because at that time the industry wasn't as big as it is today, and reviewing games back then was truly about gaming and not just about getting more traffic or attention.

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Ju5778d ago

yeah, ooohhkeeeyyy....Army of Two (PS3) 80/100, Euro2008: 90/100, ProEvo08 (Wii) 88/100, PDC Darts (wii) 65/100 (well, at least that's worse :) . LMAO. A real balanced site. Convincing professionalism.

Elimin85778d ago

You mean Fortunately...... Right?

power of Green 5778d ago (Edited 5778d ago )

I don't understand all the hype for this game I watched over an hour of footage on Comcast's game section and the gameplay itself looks kind of broken.

The charactor AI is ridiculous the oldschool charactor status *noises and symbols over the head of the charactors* make this seem overhyped(if anyother game had such last generation gameplay elements it would have failed as a AAA or high scoring title).

The game looks average visually the animations basically the way snake moves and the charactors seem half assed on par with PS2 games. The story telling style of the game is stellar in ways but then again the numerous cutscens and some of the dialog is corny.

I just don't get the hype.

Listening to charactors crying every time they are injured or hit with a bultet was painfull to experiance *uh uh uh ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah* every fricken time. Man this .

The gameplay mechanics are so last generation looking all these reviews seem like appeasement.

I do like some of the ideas in the gameplay though like the Boss fight with the Octopus
thing" imagine if MGS4 had a more next-gen battle system or mechanics the ideas Hideo has are top-notch that battle would be very intense if MGS4 had a more mordern fighting system. Something about the animations and or the movement speed etc and the camera doesn't seem right.

The execution of the gamplay mechanics are simply not worthy of this type of praise.

If Hideo had not made deals(bribe the mainstream media setting the tone for others to follow)and the media itself not been afraid of the Sony movement this game would be shed in a different light.

WoW just WoW.

EDIT BELOW: try to stay on topic lol.

Angelitos5778d ago

power of Green

Plz, your just saying whatever u can 2 defend the 360.

The Wood5778d ago (Edited 5778d ago )

that was a whole heap of Haeythc Aey Tee Eee PoG. You typed all that to show us what? You dont like the game. Funny thing was ive not seen your presence in the other 612 10/10 review threads on n4g only this and a couple of the, you guessed it, low score articles. You wonder why people call you what they do. You are truly the greatest fanboy ever. You are allowed to not like things about mgs4 but watching people play then telling us what you feel is the most asnine thing ive heard today.

Panthers5778d ago

Why cant I touch POGs bubbles? He deserves to have them go away.

Millah5778d ago (Edited 5778d ago )

LOL @ Power of green!!! You truly deserve the title of most blind fanboy MS puppet. You really have no clue what good gameplay is based off your opinions. Then again, you said that you've only WATCHED footage and not actually PLAYED the game, so you have no clue what the execution of the gameplay is like.

Me being far from a fanboy, owning almost every game system ever made including all three current, fanboys are actually the one thing I despise most about this industry today. I don't see how you can call the gameplay "last gen." I don't even see how you actually complained because exclamation points appear over a soldiers head after being spotted, lol thats gotta be the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Now I'm not trying to hate on Halo, I actually played the game a lot when it was released, but I assume you're a fanboy of Halo 3, and I'm just curious what makes the gameplay of Halo 3 groundbreaking, let alone any different, from Halo 1 or 2. You wanna talk about MGS4 being last gen, yet the game features a total overhaul with countless improvements and some of the most refined gameplay I've ever played, but don't realize some of your precious 360 games are more guilty than anybody else. Think before you act like a tool pal.

How about you play the game first before having MS herd you like the mindless sheep that you are.

thesummerofgeorge5778d ago

You're judging among other things, graphics... from a second hand source video? Until you have the game on a high definition television, there's no way in hell you can judge the graphics, much less anything else. Not that that would make a difference to you anyway, you're a flaming fanboy. By the way, this game is more next gen than anything to date. This game would never have been remotely possible last gen and that's a fact. Wait let me guess, they could have, they just didn't want to.

BattleAxe5778d ago (Edited 5778d ago )

If they are giving the game a score like this, then you have to wonder if they even played it. Absolutely ridiculous.

@POG, yeah and HALO has a truly next gen battle system..........give me a break.

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Breakfast5778d ago

We need that one yellow bar

:)

How can i submit this to them?

LordXenu5778d ago

cause this site is not listed at meta

JD_Shadow5778d ago (Edited 5778d ago )

...that's kind of a cheap shot, Breakfast. Submitting a lackluster review (that, by the way, got some things wrong...there's no 45 minute cutscene in the game unless you want to count the ending, and again, why the omitting of the Solid Eye or the Mk. 2) just so the game can get a color lower and satisfy your fanboy wants is nothing more than doing that "kneecapping" that this site said others were doing to get notice.

Again, I wonder why you want others to hate this game so bad that you must justify a cheap shot to do so (and if it was meant as a joke, it wasn't funny in the slightest).

Millah5778d ago (Edited 5778d ago )

Amen Darkpower. Bubble for you.

Hey Breakfast, you are a clown, a pure example of what is wrong with gaming. You are not a gamer, and don't disgrace the real gamers on this site with you're pathetic responses.

Play video games for the enjoyment of gaming, quit worrying about what system the games are on. Just leave it be, if you dislike a game, leave it at that, don't be an immature douche and make your sole purpose in life bringing down a game you dislike or a game that you can't own because of your blind faith in a video game console.

yanikins1115778d ago

lol

some of us knew it was a joke breakfast.

JD_Shadow5778d ago (Edited 5778d ago )

...that WASN'T that clear cut that it was a joke (again, you're assuming it was to begin with. Knowing his record on this site, he could be VERY serious at doing something like that). You can't guarantee us that he WAS joking about kneecapping the game like that. How do you know that he IS?

And, like I said, if it WAS a joke, it wasn't funny.

mistertwoturbo5778d ago

Breakfast is one of those "Oh I love all games, and i'm no fanboy" Says things like "Get out of here troll" or always pretends to be non-biased. But deep down in his pathetic little soul, he's hurting bit by bit.

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Silogon5778d ago

"not appraising games for the sake of peer conformity;"

I guess they don't realise by going in the complete opposite direction they are conforming to a certain demograph themselves. See how that works?

Stupid jerk spurts! I hate when review sites toss out their opinions as fact but what I hate even more is when review sites are abstinent for the sake of being so. This review has so much venom towards other reviews it's almost as if the bias here is against the ones who gave mgs4 good reviews.

Strange days.

JD_Shadow5778d ago (Edited 5778d ago )

How in the HELL did YOU get subtracted to only one bubble when you put up some good stuff like THAT.

I'm giving you a bubble for that one and am also encouraging others to do the same, because you just hit the nail on the f'n HEAD there.

With your permission, let me repost what you said just in case someone with filters decides to not care to show your comment:

***"not appraising games for the sake of peer conformity;"

I guess they don't realise by going in the complete opposite direction they are conforming to a certain demograph themselves. See how that works?

Stupid jerk spurts! I hate when review sites toss out their opinions as fact but what I hate even more is when review sites are abstinent for the sake of being so. This review has so much venom towards other reviews it's almost as if the bias here is against the ones who gave mgs4 good reviews.

Strange days.***

EDIT: Even if I disagree with some of your comments that you've made on other stories (I've looked through some of them), you seem to be fair. At least fairer than the likes of Buffa or this poor excuse for a review.

meepmoopmeep5778d ago

i gave him a bubble. i agree with his statement.

mistertwoturbo5778d ago

I also gave him a bubble cause what he says is true.

mikeslemonade5778d ago

BOYCOTT!!!!! Not that anyone visited this site anyway...

Condoleezza Rice5778d ago (Edited 5778d ago )

I need your help.I am a desperate Website that has absolutely zero impact in the video game industry,in order to be able to pay my Internet bills and maintain my existence,I need to get Corporations and Marketing Firms interested in investing in me.But without people visiting me,I will never evolve into a blip on the Video Game Website Radar.

So I have to find a way to generate interest among gamers,I have to stand out somehow...I...I will have to give Metal Gear Solid 4,the greatest game since Ocarina of Time...I will have to give it a 79/100.

Whilst I will never have Credibility amongst gamers from here on out,I will have gained enough hits,so I will be able to pay my Internet Bills.

littletad5778d ago

I mean blog reviews and unfamiliar game sites, really have no business here. But debunking them is so much fun, I guess maybe it is a good thing sometimes.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro40d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7240d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_40d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga40d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2340d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200040d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin40d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole40d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix40d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198940d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198940d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons351d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde351d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden351d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop351d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu350d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop351d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17350d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop350d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136350d ago (Edited 350d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984350d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster350d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989351d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon351d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

Tody_ZA351d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon351d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

Tody_ZA351d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon351d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden351d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt350d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989350d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90351d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden351d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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