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GamePro: MGS4 is without a doubt, one of the greatest games of all time

Every once in a long while, a game will come along and change all the rules. Final Fantasy VII transformed the RPG genre, Resident Evil helped create a new sub-category of gaming--survival horror--and Grand Theft Auto III single-handedly reshaped the gaming landscape.

And now comes Metal Gear Solid 4, a game whose potential influence on the current state of gaming is nothing short of tectonic.

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name5802d ago

As I was submitting this it said it was currently being submitted by you >:0

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BulletToothtony5802d ago

And it was very well written.. I'm very glad that people are being able to see this game for what it is.. it gives us gamers a great experience.. bringing a lot of new things to the table, braking the same experience that we have been getting for a while now.

Hideo tried something new.. adding even more to the mgs series and he succeeded... the game will definitely inspire some gameplay for the next few years to come i'll assure you of that..

I love fps but when you find a great game that just really pulls you in and you become one with the character.. well that's even better.. i felt it with Uncharted but mgs just does it lots better...

Very excited about this game.. it took a bit to come out, but like so many people said when haters were talking trash about ps3 not having games.. "Good things come to those who wait".. and we're getting the best

MikeGdaGod5802d ago

i just bought MG Essentials today to get me ready for it.

Mr_President_5802d ago

Anybody who doesn't play this loses their right to be called a gamer.

Lifendz5802d ago

remember all the talk about it being multi-platform by so many people (and gaming media people) even after Hideo and Sony said it's a PS3 exclusive? Well I guess we now know why. Get your money up fellas. You're going to want to play this game.

Tomdc5802d ago

lol i love the forum post's after it:

"wow! One of the greatest games of all time!"

because if 1 mag says it in a review it must be true....

Obviously it is true btw I mean it is MGS4!!! Jus funny how their opinions are so easily influenced

theKiller5802d ago

after MGS4, u will rarely see many 10/10 thats for sure, because before they give a game 10/10 they will think "ahh wait is this the same level as MGS4??" of course the answer is no so they will pull back a bit to 9/10 at best!

i said it before and i will say it now, this game will be in top 5 games of all time

Monchichi0255802d ago

Anyone surprised??? LMAO We all know they are and have always been in bed with Sony. But I'll wait till IGN reviews it before deciding if I'll pick this up...

Heavy-h5802d ago

And ive got the comsole to play it on,

It looks, sounds and feels amazing that it made grown men Cry, what kind of mad genius could do this? one word, Kojima!

deepio5802d ago (Edited 5802d ago )

"only the PS3 has the power to run the game"

Wasn't it Kojima who said it's technically possible for Metal Gear Solid 4 to run on Xbox 360 hardware?

Fallen_Angel5802d ago

wow cant believe that such a blind ingorant fanboy remark like Hydrolex's got 31 agrees in the "gaming zone" no less it tells you how lame this site has become.

Its hard to take gamepro to serious for me I remember when (maybe they still do) they had those stupid lil red faces for a 5.0. and they score 5 games a month perfect. Not to say mgs isnt a good game I just prefer to get my reviews from ign and gameinformer or egm

BattleAxe5802d ago

MGS 2+3 were 2 of the best games ever made, so theres no doubt that MGS4 will be one of the best of all time.

MGS4 and SOCOM are going to sell alot of consoles.

Black Maverick5801d ago

People seem to always misquote Kojima. What he actually said was that the 2006 trailer he released could technically be reproduced on the Xbox 360. He never said anything about the actual game.

I'm personally not discounting the XBox 360's power to run MGS4 but I'm just saying that Kojima never actually said it.

lessthanmarcus5801d ago

..if MGS4 can beat out Halo 3 sales in terms of exclusives. This is definitely a system seller as was Halo 3 for me.

DARKKNIGHT5801d ago

BUT BTUT BUT i thouthg teh pstriple waz d0000m3d?

its gonna be a hot summer........and you know xboxes cant stand the heat.

Yipee Bog5799d ago

I love the only con they could find in the game, stress indicator. If this is the only gripe they could find then this is really great news.
Also the PSM review for MGS4 is ultimately identical, I haven't seen such similar reviews for a single game yet, until now.

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sonarus5802d ago (Edited 5802d ago )

Evil is powerful...but courage is SOLID
:D Believe it people, MGS4 is one of the greatest games of ALL TIME

The scan doesn't show the score though, this should be a rumor but i knew gamepro would dish out a 10

AlterEgo5802d ago

until at least some scans were available, but after seeing some of the things that get approved here....

i just went for it lol

sonarus5802d ago

Yea i knew gamepro would give it a 10 plus you don't call a game greatest of all time without giving it a 10

AlterEgo5802d ago

lol true, if it wasn't...

that'd be pretty boneheaded of them

badz1495802d ago

be a game, even GTAIV that should had achieved perfect 10 if 10 is an indication of perfections! but THE 10 has lately becoming common after GTAIV and 10 is no longer means 'perfect' like many have thought it should had been! I'm enjoying GTAIV but it's nowhere near 10 with its glitches everywhere and old style graphics! after almost all major sites gave 10 to GTAIV before april 29th, I lost faith in reviewers especially IGN and GS as they clearly aiming for larger hits from users by giving a 10 that easily. that's why I didn't even bothered when IGN gave HAZE a 4.5 because if they were saying HAZE sucked, I knew that they SUCK even more!! so, what about MGS4 then? from what I've seen so far, it deserves more praise than what GTAIV was getting and a couples more 10 is highly predictable! It's interesting to see what IGN and GS will give it though. as for me, I'm very sure MGS4 will be AWESOME and I'll get it regardless, but I'm not saying it'll be perfect because 10 is no more a PERFECTION!

Watkins5802d ago

True that, it sucks that GTA IV got a perfect 100. I finished the game, and then there was nothing more to do. Online was crappy and the extra missions wasn't rewarding (200 pigeons for a heli ... uhm?)

beavis4play5802d ago

yea, i felt let down by GTA4 too. story was so-so, targeting system still bad, and missions seemed repetitive. then there was the freeze-ups and in game glitches. can't wait for MGS4. i'm trading GTA in for credit on the 12th.

Voiceofreason5802d ago

You knew that GamePro would give it a 10? LMAO sure you did... You do know they dont use a score system with a 10 in it right? Its all 5's

iHEARTboobs5802d ago

That's true, gamepro only gives out a 5 at best. But MGS4 will get a 5 and so will MGO. So that equals a 10! haha

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pwnsause5802d ago

its not one of the greatest games of all time, it is the GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME!!!!!

Rikitatsu5802d ago

i am sure its great , but not my best

that place holds Shenmue

Maverick_5802d ago

LOL Someone actually agreed with you saying Shenmue will be better than MGS4??? LAWL

I smell steaming angry XBOTS!!! HAHAHAHHA

Rikitatsu5802d ago (Edited 5802d ago )

So,Saying That another game on a SEGA console is better than MGS4 is fanboysim ?

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Get a freakin life Fanboys , seriously !

And WOW @ People Disagreeing with me, I said its the Number 1 one on my list, and you disagree that Isn't the number 1 on my list :P LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

Maverick_5802d ago

First of all you haven't even played MGS4 have you??/ No wait... you haven't, you're a TROLL and MGS4 and about 30 other games destroys the Dreamcast game Shenmue. Come back to 2008. Stop trolling. Shenmue has nothing to do with MGS4 and no one cares if you like the 10 year old Dreamcast game, Shenmue. ; )

GiantEnemyCrab5802d ago

So Maverick you have played MGS4? And the over zealous #1 commentor? To claim that it is better than Shenmue or as #1 said the greatest game of all time?

Pot meet kettle.

Xlll5802d ago

So much for that comment about U.S. reviews being low for MGS4. Xbots fail again.

Rikitatsu5802d ago

You are intelligent my son

Did you Play MGS4 ? LOL

stop Spouting nonsense , i played Shenmue and i know how awesome it is, but i don't know how MGS4 will fare so STFU!

n4gzz5802d ago

where do you live dude ?? I will send you my old ps2, may be you can see what this hype is about when you play MGS series. But do not disrespect MGS4. No gamer should do. Its the finest Art in video game's history.

LenHart5802d ago

@GIANTCRAP aka MART

why arent you hiding old man. Please go hide.

quick quick quick

Maverick_5802d ago (Edited 5802d ago )

Title of the thread:"GamePro: MGS4 is without a doubt, one of the greatest games of all time"

This has NOTHING to do with 10-year-old Shenmue. Stop trolling.

"[MGS4] sets new standards for graphics, sound, gameplay, and storytelling, and it may be years before it is equaled, let alone surpassed. You will not play a better game this year -- maybe even this decade. If you own a PS3, buy this game the day it comes out. And if you don't own a PS3, well, you better start saving your nickels and dimes."

hahahahahah DIE BOTS. PS3 just TRASHED every game on the RRODbox. PS3 has about 20 more huge Exclusives in the works. hahahhaa this is soooo funny.

SERIOUSLY. READ THAT QUOTE. YOU BOTS JUST GOT DESTROYED.

Homicide5802d ago

The greatest game to come out this gen period. Sorry bots and wiitards, it's time to jump out and PLAY B3YOND! Giant Enemy Crab is butthurt after those MGS4 scores. They're outscoring Ninja Gaiden 1.5 ;D

DarkSniper5802d ago

Actually, Rikitasu holds a very strong point in what he says. Dark Sniper wholeheartedly agrees that the Shenmue universe is slightly more intriguing than that of Metal Gear Solid.

While Dark Sniper knows for sure he will be enjoying the true power of PLAYSTATION®3 when Metal Gear Solid 4 comes out. He will never forget that Shenmue WILL ALWAYS hold a dear and special place in his heart forever. Hence the origin of Dark Sniper's avatar.

$niper

Rikitatsu5802d ago

Rikitatsu agrees with You while ignoring the Fanboys , and the supporters of the baby killers ;)

themyk5802d ago

you guys are fuking cracking me up

GiantEnemyCrab5802d ago (Edited 5802d ago )

Tell me where I slated MGS4 at all in my comment? Please learn some reading comprehension. If anything this is the POS3's swan song, it's about time. But don't for a moment slag the 360 because the last time I checked it had many AAA titles as well as a couple GOTY's under its belt.

And Nasim, you keep on calling me Mart you mentally ill mofo.

@1.18: Fair enough and I agree with you and I don't see anything wrong with celebrating a great game on your platform. But if it can't be enjoyed without trying to take a diss on the 360 or it's games than I call bullsh*t.(not that you did that but others have). You might want to add (in my opinion) to your post.

DarkSniper5802d ago

Thank you Rikitasu for keeping the hope of Shenmue III alive. Ryo's quest to exact revenge on Lan Di must be fufilled someway and somehow. Even if it means switching discussion on what Dark Sniper truly thinks will be the greatest game of all time (MGS4), to the strongest gaming cult following of all time.

If Shenmue III and Metal Gear Solid 4 both hit store shelves on June 12th at the same time, Dark Sniper would honestly purchase Shenmue III first.

pwnsause5802d ago

everyones entitled to their own opinion, thats the beauty of gaming, people have their different tastes in terms what their favorate game is, it is their reason why they play to this very day

Dacapn5802d ago (Edited 5802d ago )

Ya must realize this is open zone. Logic doesn't apply here.

And baby killers...really?

chaosatom3335802d ago

BIGGEST PAYBACK TIME OF THE YEAR.

juuken5802d ago (Edited 5802d ago )

...Wow, damage control all around!
Don't cry GiantEnemyCrap...I know you wanted to see the PS3 fail but this game is only the beginning of MS's woes. They tried to release NG2 in front of a masterpiece and now that masterpiece is about to run over that poor game.

And Rikitatsu dear, PLEASE get over yourself. Not even Shenmue the dolphin can beat this game.

Pain5802d ago (Edited 5802d ago )

What? A Great Game Thats Not on RROD2??? OMG WTF....get used to it..

After MGS4 devolpers wont want to make old gen Games on RROD2,

Cuz they will see the GREATNESS of what PS3 can Offer so its bye bye.

oh and Ill say it for Crab and other Bots, your line is: M$ DEFENSE FORCE HOOOOO!!!!!!

ThatCanadianGuy5802d ago

You cant honestly compare shenmue...to MGS4..

Like wow..

i've never even herd of shenmue thats how terrible it must be..

And you expect it to rival the little slice of heaven that is Hideo Kojima's imagination? No..just..no

Montrealien5802d ago (Edited 5802d ago )

(i've never even herd of shenmue thats how terrible it must be.. )

*chuckle*

I agree with the fact that MGS4 will be a very good game, however Shenmu was something Very, Very, Special when it came out....Almost 10 years ago!

Gaming History 101 kids, learn where we came from to appreciate where we are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

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cmrbe5801d ago

You are in the wrong zone my friend and people. He is just stating that MGS4 is not his best game ever. Its kind of stupid for you people to jump on him for saying so but then again. This is the FUN ZONE :)

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name5802d ago

If GTAIV gets goty over this game I'm never buying a GTA game again out of pure spite.

PirateThom5802d ago

I've never buying another GTA game full stop. Overrated garbage.

Although, I've said that since Vice City and I always end up buying it.

Whoooop5802d ago

The game wasn't bad.. Sure it was hyped too much and sure reviews exagerated a bit, but all and all it's a salid cool game.

While I had more fun in Vice City and SA, IMO Niko Bellic is the best Main Character in the series. He is far more interesting than the others (IMO.

I'm going to keep buying GTA's as long as they don't sell their souls to EA.

PirateThom5802d ago

I don't think the games are bad, I just get bored of them really quickly. Not to take anything away from Rockstar, who do an amazing job on each game, but I've only ever finished the main missions of Vice City and Liberty City Stories.

Maverick_5802d ago (Edited 5802d ago )

A couple of quotes:

"This is video game story telling at it's absolute best, and represents a new high watermark for the craft, EASILY surpassing the superb BioShock and the subversive Grand Theft Auto IV."

"To play the core of the game you only need to use four main buttons: aim, shoot, crawl, and use. That the game squeezes so much functionality out of such a simple interface is one of it's crowning achievements."

And we get Bioshock too! Year of the PS3!!

Maverick_5802d ago (Edited 5802d ago )

"[MGS4] sets new standards for graphics, sound, gameplay, and storytelling, and it may be years before it is equaled, let alone surpassed. You will not play a better game this year -- maybe even this decade. If you own a PS3, buy this game the day it comes out. And if you don't own a PS3, well, you better start saving your nickels and dimes."

????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ? ?????????????????????????????? ??? DUDE WTF!!! I KNEW it would be amazing but this is ridiculous.

MGS4 sounds like it's going to trash EVERYTHING.

LMFAOROFLOLOLOLOLOL @ ANYONE who doubted Kojima in ending Solid Snake's journey.

Seriously Everyone just get a PS3 so we can play this together!!!! THAT SOUNDS INCREDIBLE, AMAZING.... DUDE EVERYTHING GOT OWNED x 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000

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turbogeekx5802d ago (Edited 5802d ago )

"This is video game story telling at it's absolute best, and represents a new high watermark for the craft, easily surpassing the superb BioShock and the subversive Grand Theft Auto IV."

Wow. Just wow. *Crying*

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro38d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7238d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_38d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga38d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2338d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200039d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin39d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole38d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix38d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198938d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198938d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons349d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde349d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden349d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop349d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu348d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop349d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17349d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop348d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136348d ago (Edited 348d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984348d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster348d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989349d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon349d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

Tody_ZA349d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon349d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

Tody_ZA349d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon349d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden349d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt349d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989348d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90349d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden349d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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