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The future of Xbox: Will history remember 'the end of exclusive games' as the right choice?

A gamble that could pay off, or backfire.

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Jin_Sakai115d ago

Xbox is pretty much irrelevant at this point and PlayStation will open up a massive player base for Xbox games.

Obscure_Observer114d ago

Yeah, it´s so "irrelevant" that even publishers and developers that used to skip Xbox and keep their games exclusive to either or both Nintendo and Sony, are now heading towards to Series Consoles.

Playstation "massive" player base couldn´t prevent Sony from losing freaking 10 Billion after its latest financial report, and PC which used to be treated as Sony´s *main* competitor according to Andrew House, is now their main partner.

Those are the facts.

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Crows90114d ago

Another fact for you. Developments is pretty standardized now compared to before.

Many games still skip Xbox consoles.

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Ironmike114d ago

Sony going to be doing the same watch next Yr

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S2Killinit114d ago (Edited 114d ago )

Xbox has never been as irrelevant as it is today. So much so that they are releasing their games on other consoles to make a profit.

Facts

anast114d ago

It will be up by 20 billion by the end of the 4th quarter.

StormSnooper114d ago (Edited 114d ago )

Even you can’t deny that Xbox isn’t what it used to be. They lose more ground with every generation.

derek113d ago

@Obscure, lol. You guys are delusional. The stock went down and it will go back up. PC is a partner? There is nothing to partner with concerning pc, it's is an open platform and Sony will use it as it sees fit.

Markusb33113d ago

imagine thinking anyone needs to listen to the company that has came 3rd place in every gen in every gen it was on the market, xb pretends its driving the industry this is not the case, when you have to say every screen is an xb you know you have to only a 3rd party publisher.

Philaroni113d ago

I don't do this much but I'll make and effort. This is at both Obscure_Observer and Jin_Sakai.

First off, none of the systems are irrelevant. I, myself am getting a bit tried of all the doom and gloom comments. The real facts are yes, MS is in 3rd place (BOOH ooh) they still make cash, good for them. Nintendo is about as healthy of a company that next to never has laid people off when all others did. Third, Sony is being Sony, They are or at least at this time of writing, have understood they can't with the cost of games do things how they use too.

@Obscure The loss of 10 Billion is in market value. That is not just due to them lowering expectations for the PS5 but as products as a whole. Unless you have some Sony stock like I do. It matters little, The market will correct itself as it tends to do. Its just share holders selling when it was high and not seeing it getting higher up. As complex as it is, they do answer more to the NIK then the DOW or others. Much more going on there then just PlayStation as Japan is having some major social and economical issues atm. For some information on how this works I will just quote.

"Market value or OMV is the price at which an asset would trade in a competitive auction setting. Market value is often used interchangeably with open market value, fair value or fair market value, although these terms have distinct definitions in different standards, and differ in some circumstances"

It really means nothing to us gamers, Sony and MS are so far apart in this its a joke to compare. Though I get why gamers see this and freak out.

On the MS side, they got all the capital in the world, right now.. I hope we see it translate in to good games and want the best for it all, though, though history and my personal experience working at MS. Cash does not solve issues, you can have the money but if you don't pay the right person/people to do it then you get nothing out of it, and we don't in the end.

I do think MS is trying hard to be the best version of themselfs in the Xbox brand. Though.... The thing that sticks with me is.... how is it the largest, most powerful, software company in the world still has no game engine of there own? Slipstream failed, hard, Mixer dead. They seem to be as bad as google on just green lighting things and then never really cultivating those who are there.

Cacabunga113d ago (Edited 113d ago )

FF7R? When is it coming to your box?

“ Sony´s *main* competitor according to Andrew House, is now their main partner. ”

Ok so you prefer what, when Xbox is a competitor or a partner?? Cause it’s2 totally different things.. you cannot like both except if you are a brand fanboy only which means you are delusional

Sonic1881113d ago (Edited 113d ago )

@Obscure_Observer

Watching you have a nervous breakdown is hilarious. It's like you put all your energy in Microsoft and Xbox and they let you down and betrayed your loyalty to them. Everything you said in the past is irrelevant now 😂

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TheEroica113d ago

Down with exclusives games... Down with gamers posing as corporate shills... Power to gamers having access to all games without hardware pay walls!

Eonjay113d ago

And then you get to Nintendo who is like 'Hell No'.

GhostScholar113d ago

That’s odd to say Sony will open up a massive player bass for Xbox games when all
I read on here is that Xbox has no games. Also no one said there won’t be exclusives. People said Sony would never put their games on pc but they did. Lastly, Sony fan boys keep Xbox relevant because Xbox is all they talk about. SMH

Eonjay113d ago

If all you read on N4G is Xbox has no games, you might not know how to read lol.

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-Foxtrot115d ago

I hate the idea of consoles losing exclusive games, I'd be gutted if Sony or Nintendo started putting their games on whatever willy nilly as you've got to have that special "ooomf" to justify the purchase of each one.

However in Xbox's case they've been heading down this path for years now, not just because of Microsoft's new business goals but because of their own silly decisions. Microsoft buying up two massive publishers paved the way for them to become a huge third party publisher themselves and in years to come more games will come to other consoles

If you think they will stop at just 4 games then you are lying to yourselves

Lightning77114d ago

Nobody suspects they'll ll stop at 4. They're just testing the waters. If they succeed expect more of those types of games to make the jump.

EvertonFC114d ago

"If they succeed" well we know the answer to that already, so basically a 3rd party company in 3 years.

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Lightning77114d ago

@Ever riiiight They're releasing a new gen console.

So much for 3 years I guess.

@landy get lost spam bot.

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EvertonFC114d ago (Edited 114d ago )

Of course they will have a console, but they will love the profits from Nintendo and PlayStation gamers buying the games.
It's gonna actually be a great move for Xbox, I'm not in the playstation has defeated Xbox camp fella I can assure you.
Playstation fans won't like me saying this but Sony will see the profits MS is actually making and will no doubt offer at least some exclusives imo at some point nxt generation.
It's about profits for these companies at the end of the day and they all love the €/£/$

Obscure_Observer114d ago

"If you think they will stop at just 4 games then you are lying to yourselves"

Well, I believe more games will come eventually. Just not the ones you´re expecting.

They´re already announced their plans to release another powerful next gen system. So to assume they´ll release their major system-sellers on both Nintendo and Sony´s systems is silly to say at least.

"I'd be gutted if Sony or Nintendo started putting their games on whatever willy nilly as you've got to have that special "ooomf" to justify the purchase of each one."

I wonder if Playstation consoles will be worth for you in the future as more and more games will making its way to PC.

I believe Nintendo will be the only one of the big three to remain loyal to console gaming only for the foreseeable future.

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Philaroni113d ago

I can agree on some of this, the two big ones for me are Killer Instinct, and Sunset Overdrive. My reasons for this is that Sony owns EVO and it could spark a new life in the KI IP to have another, even side matches. Sunset Overdrive is one of the most under played games I feel on Xbox, being it was from Insomniac, and near all of the fanbase was on PlayStation.

Nintendo, well they are fine. I honestly see them doing something with Xbox before Sony, If you know the history Nintendo was a division of Sony many years ago, long before many of us could walk. I don't see them working 'together' anytime soon.

As for the PC part, I'm kind of in a 20/80 Agreement? 20 for 80 against. Most of the people I play with are all on an Xbox or PS4 or PS5. Lots of Steam people as well. My best friend will only play on his big TV and such, where I am here with my Uber gamer PC set up that is outdated.. but I can still play everything rather well.. though it cost me close to *coughs* $2700 back then... As much as I want to upgrade I hate to say it the PC gaming situation has got rather crap over the last few years. If you don't have the technical know how on fixing stuff on your own. That is just not worth it to most people. Can just by an Xbox or PS5 and more or less plug and play.

As for the games on PS making it to PC. So far for me its worked out well, they do a good job of Ultra wide support (God please MS support this, I'd kill for it) and compared to 3rd parties have a better track record of fixing things more in a timely manor. Is it perfect, hell no. But MS still blows balls at the MS Xbox launcher, I been crossing my digits for a refresh. Anyone that has used it alot will know the pain XD.

Nintendo I agree will be in their own place, kind of beside the big two but not against them? Oddly all the MS news as of late and such just keeps benefiting them more then anyone.

EvertonFC113d ago (Edited 113d ago )

I believe we have 1 generation left of hardware, maybe 2 generations for Nintendo and PlayStation but after that it'll be an app on your phone like GP, Ps plus, steam etc and you just flick the app to the TV and your playing your favourite games.
It'll cost the gamer £350 a year if they want Nintendo, Xbox and playstation subscriptions, GaaS, live, early access service games will all be across the subscriptions and exclusives will be timed from all 3 companies with exceptions to some 1st party games from the 3.

StoneTitan113d ago

You just eat up everything that spencer says.
I mean. If xbox does not bring their big games over to ps its over for them. Watch the next elder scrolls. Skyrim sold over 100million right?
Starfield did what? Not even 10. No ps- no bethesda. They are gonna let go more and more people its gonna be a massacre.

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MrDead114d ago (Edited 114d ago )

It's funny now MS is multiplatform it's own platform will be it's smallest customer base. They purchased publishers and studios that profit the least from Xbox and now MS is taking control away from Xbox heads and making multiplatform games multiplatform again!?!.. MS is the worst thing to ever happen to the gaming industry so far, lets see what damage their dream of rentals only does to gaming, their horrendous mergers have already crapped on the workforce and left fans of franchises in limbo.

EvertonFC113d ago (Edited 113d ago )

MS won't care when 5m plus Nintendo/playstation fans buy the halo collection or 10m buy the gears games etc etc.
Shit load of cash from playstation and Nintendo with Xbox back catalogue alone then add to that indy, ES6, hellblade 2 etc.

MrDead113d ago

@onFC
"MS won't care when 5m plus Nintendo/playstation fans buy the halo collection or 10m buy the gears games etc etc."

Exactly, Xbox is MS's smallest market. Now that they are buying up the industry firing thousands of devs and making a handful of extremely rich people even richer the Xbox hardware is kinda pointless. Their dream of making the gaming industry into a huge rental service is still the goal, so don't worry your wish could still come true.

anast114d ago

Nintendo can't, it would destroy their console sales. Their consoles are always the weakest every gen.

NotoriousWhiz113d ago

If you exclude the SNES, Wii, and the Switch, then sure.

anast113d ago

The Switch, SNES, Wii are weaker than the PS5 and SX. This is objective.

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XiNatsuDragnel114d ago

I won't like exclusives for platforms entirely go away because it negs the validity of a purchase.

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isarai114d ago (Edited 114d ago )

My thing is, making a game exclusively for one console allows the developers to get closer to to the medal, and get more out of their games than other developers on their platform. That's why first party games no matter the platform or generation have always been a step above everyone else, and have spearheaded technology far ahead of anyone else besides the rare outliers like Rockstar.

That has always been a huge draw for me as a gamer, and it would really suck to see that go away.

Popsicle113d ago (Edited 113d ago )

This^. I love that there are some games that are able to focus on one platform and maximize the strengths of the hardware. 1st party games are what push the boundaries of what is possible every generation. I as a consumer, do not want to lose that.

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Microsoft shakes up Xbox marketing as key exec departs for Roblox

Jerret West is leaving Xbox at the end of the month.

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TOTSUKO46m ago

Won’t be missed. Xbox sucks at marketing in this industry. This is badly needed.

jznrpg27m ago

I see Xbox stuff everywhere. On cereal boxes, toasters and fridges.. Xbox just sucks.

Scissorman24m ago

This. Marketing isn't the issue. He's just fleeing the sinking ship.

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There's No Place For AAA Exclusivity In Gaming Industry Anymore

Exclusivity is no longer the golden goose it used to be, making the multi-platform strategy way more appealing.

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Jin_Sakai1d 8h ago

I disagree. Then we’d have one console rule them all with no competition.

-Foxtrot1d 5h ago

No competition means no one will push themselves

Everything will feel super safe

AsimLionheart53m ago

Agreed. These articles are nothing but an attempt to pressure Sony PlayStation into committing seppuku by releasing their exclusives on Xbox. This is exactly what they did with all that crossplay pro-consumer propaganda campaign a few years back. And also tried when Xbox One announced DRM and always online. Why don't these journalists ever demand Nintendo to release their games on other platforms? That alone makes their malicious and dishonest intentions clear. Whenever MS manages to shoot themselves in the foot, they try to convince Sony to do it too just so the can absolve MS.

StormSnooper5h ago

no exclusives means no competition to provide outstanding games. It means rehashed releases that will be up to a certain standard, and take no risks because no risks are necessary or justified.

It means, games pass, and services, and microtransactions, and parceled out gaming.

darthv724h ago

There is not really a lot of differences in the platforms as it is. Except for Nintendo who is doing their thing in the hybrid market... both Ps and XB are virtually the same. Its like Toshiba vs Panasonic for VHS VCR... both played the same tapes but one had slightly better features when it came to recording settings. Then later it was DVD players and then bluray players. all of which can play the same stuff... what sets them apart is the brand, the price and the bells and whistles.

Competition is still there. In fact, most have more than one. Maybe more if there are more people in the house.

Cockney39m ago

Completely missing the point, the difference with videogames is there is a difference, games are the difference.
A whole paragraph to say nothing, thats quite an achievement

just_looken3h ago

@jin

True but xbox might not be around console wise next gen this gen they have shown 0 reason to buy there console so next gen going game only would be in there wheel house.

Nintendo just hangs out back with crap hardware but alot of sales.

Lightning772h ago

Weird Sarah Bond said other wise at the showcase.

just_looken2h ago

@light

They are tossing out new series consoles disc less versions at that they did not show off there next xbox consoles.

They would never say there done with consoles when tossing out a new model that would impact sales.

But saying its there last 2 years from now when the hype train is going for the ps6 would be the time that is just common sense.

When i said is true the only thing xbox console exclusive is there gamepass console games that is it everything else is on pc and or ps5

neutralgamer199211m ago

When AAA games cost on average 150-200 million than there will be a lot less platform exclusives. In next 5 years many Xbox major brands will be playable on playstation and vice versa. These games are already getting released on Pc so what's another platform

Seriously some people need to get out of the console war mindset yo understand the reality of gaming buisnes in 2024 and moving forward. Spiderman 2 cost 300 million. GTA6 is rumored to cost half of billion. Halo infinite was 500 million

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piroh1d 7h ago

Yes, lets play Gran Turismo 7 on PC and Xbox... or Demons souls remake, or FF7 Rebirth, or FF16, or Spider man 2, or Rise of the ronin, or Stellar blade, or Astros playroom, or Bloodborne, or Horizon call of mountain, or Astro bot

Lets play Zelda TOTK on PC and Xbox... or Mario Kart, Mario party, Pokemon games, Donkey kong, Kirby, Super mario games...etc

Some journalists tend to defend Microsoft decisions with illogical arguments to show us the Xbox as a competitive platform on the demand of Mr. Spencer

Xbox - literally zero exclusives, all games on PC day one. Some of them later ported to PS, Switch

Playstation - some games ported later to PC

Switch - all first party games are exclusives

Do you see the difference?

Lightning771d 4h ago

"Playstation - some games ported later to PC"

Try most of their games on PC right now.

piroh1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

More likely most of PC games on PS5 right now. PC started this leakage of exclusives during PS3 era with the games like Diablo 3, TES, Doom, Wolfenstein, Half life orange box etc.

Lets play GT7 on PC while i wait till the new Doom come out day one on PS5

Crows902h ago

Still a few missing but that wasn't his agreement...good job making it about something else.

Lightning771d 3h ago

"More likely most of PC games on PS5 right now."

Ok that's been a thing for awhile, you're deflecting. Most of Sony's games are on PC right now, these are just the facts. Fight the facts not me.

I think GT7 is one the few games that's not on PC right now. Doom is a known multiplatform game.

piroh1d 3h ago

Yes, for me as a customer its a good thing Sony putting some of old games to PC when the games stop selling. You just act like Sony going the route MS does, you dont want to hear the truth i guess. Xbox have zero exclusives and even first party Doom coming to PS5 day one, its not multiplatform developer anymore

mkis0074h ago

Most games starting from what generation? There's a lot of ps5 games and a few ps4 games...

anast1h ago

Start listing, so we can get a percentage.

Lightning771d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

" you dont want to hear the truth i guess."

You're talkin to the wrong person.

Idc I have both platforms. Xbox games on PC doesn't bother me I don't play PC I play them on consoles. I'm not bothered by stuff like that, like you are.

"its not multiplatform developer anymore"

Wut....

piroh1d 1h ago

I own PS5, XSX and even Switch, doesnt change the fact Xbox collecting dust since i finished Forza motorsport which will be on PS5 later i bet, as every Xbox game

Lightning7723h ago

Every Xbox game? Then why release a new gen Xbox? Why release a new console if everything's goin over, that's what I wanna know.

piroh6h ago

Trust me, either MS doesnt know why release a new console.

Lightning776h ago(Edited 6h ago)

"trust me"

Someone on N4g? Yeah how bout not.

Naw that's not a good reason. What you said doesn't make sense. Halo, Gears Fable etc main headliners won't be on PS. They need to sell the new console still.

piroh2h ago

What you said is not true, it is your wish only to justify Xbox purchase. I bet there will be Halo, GeoW and Fable on PS in the near future.

Lightning7755m ago

https://www.playstation.com...

Also add Horizon Forbidden West and Ragnarok. Most of Sony's games this gen are on PC now. I thought y'all knew this? Extreme denial. That's leaves out GT7 and Astro Bot.

@piroh

Whats not true? Sure keep the hopium alive I guess. They need to sell consoles and by putting specifically Gears and their other titles on PS would hurt their console sales full stop and ppl would have 0 reason to pick up the new Xbox. You gotta use your head just a little bit bro.

mkis0071m ago(Edited 1m ago)

There will always be ps5 and then ps6 games not on pc at release. They will eventually make their way there, but then new games will come out to take their place as exclusives. As long a playstation developes hardware they will have exclusives of at least 1 year.

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Einhander19721d 7h ago

Wow how surprising, no call for Nintendo to put it's games on xbox or PlayStation, or xbox to put any new games on PlayStation. And no, games from publishers they bought that were going to be on PlayStation anyway don't count.

And xbox putting games on PlayStation and Nintendo works because they have market share and their owners still buy games.

There is zero point to putting games on xbox where people don't buy anything and they only have ten percent global market share.

Third party games sell less than 20 percent of total units versus PlayStation, even less when a game is on all three platforms.

Lightning771d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Shawn Layden put it best. The big tent pole games are at their significance at the beginning of a gen, but a little less near the half way or end of a gen because you set the sales momentum with the best games.

That's why Xbox had momentum at the end of 2021 with Halo and Forza. All got lost in 2022 with the delay of Redfall and Starfield. While PS released Horizon and GoW in 2022 which pulled them waaaay ahead of Xbox.

The ones who say exclusives don't matter anymore are seriously wrong, dead wrong. As I said they shift the console sales momentum in your favor especially when you couple it with a major third party release l like COD. That's why in 2022 COD leading the charge that holiday for PS along side Gow an established IP was a deadly combo. Something MS did during the 360 days. Cod on top of whatever game Xbox was releasing that holiday also.

That's why they've been having tug of war with COD because it brings in money and console sales.

In all honesty Sony will see those Switch sales and probably put smaller family friendly games on the platform when they see more green from Switch, expect more of that. This is exactly how it started with Xbox. PC first, then Switch with games like Ori, 007, Cup Head, Banjo etc now PS will follow suit.

But their big game system selling games will remain exclusive (so they can sell consoles) then come to PC year later or so. Basically they'll have timed exclusives.

-Foxtrot1d 5h ago

I hope it hypothetically Sony did make their games multiplatform there’s a massive outcry for Nintendo to make their games third party

Ohhhhh…yeah, they won’t will they

Whenever Microsoft does something it’s only Sony that needs to then do the same.

Bathyj4h ago

It's only when Xbox does something out of desperation that games media acts like this is the way the industry should be heading. There loser should set the agenda.

Why is that?

Aloymetal3h ago

''It's only when Xbox does something out of desperation that games media acts like this is the way the industry should be heading''
Bingo!!
Tomorrow Phil could announce that xbox is no more and all these journos and gaming media outlet will be writing pieces on how this is the best decision ever for MS and their green brand and how Sony should follow the same steps lmao.

Lightning772h ago

What the hell were you reading when things were rumored to go full Multiplat for Xbox back in February? What positive spin and articles are you talkin about? I've seen no such thing especially on YT it was pure doom.

I swear y'all love making stuff up.

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