You might expect the cost of a non-physical game to cost a lot less than the digital version. There is no need for production of an item or transport costs, so why do publishers charge the same?
Jerret West is leaving Xbox at the end of the month.
Unfortunately, Xbox has not done great with marketing this generation. One thing I found odd is that he is leaving Xbox for Roblox. I'm not sure how big Roblox is in comparison to Xbox but I can't imagine him getting better compensation from there. Perhaps he was forced out?
@fr0sty Would you leave your place of employment to work somewhere else for less pay just because that business is profitable?
You would have to be a special person to be ok with that.
Marketing is not the issue at XBOX. Production and its leadership have screwed up royally. XBOX studios, wth are you doing managing these developers?!
It is both and all... the best console with the most expensive invest in marketing and the "best" developers and the best online service with the best servers... but... well... also, the worst console with a bad invest in marketing and competition using Microsoft servers for their online services and... What is Xbox now, a console, a service, a platform, a brand, a dead project? This is a marketing problem, maybe.
The problem is not the marketing, but how you invest the money in marketing. If you invest far more than the competition and receive less... the problem is the one in charge, isn't it? Well... Phil Spencer was a marketing guy, will he be the next? Unity are hiring... :)
"gamescom latam, the first Latin American edition of the biggest gaming event in the world, today is thrilled to unveiled its comprehensive program of speakers, marking a monumental milestone in Latin America's gaming landscape." - Gamescom.
Exclusivity is no longer the golden goose it used to be, making the multi-platform strategy way more appealing.
Agreed. These articles are nothing but an attempt to pressure Sony PlayStation into committing seppuku by releasing their exclusives on Xbox. This is exactly what they did with all that crossplay pro-consumer propaganda campaign a few years back. And also tried when Xbox One announced DRM and always online. Why don't these journalists ever demand Nintendo to release their games on other platforms? That alone makes their malicious and dishonest intentions clear. Whenever MS manages to shoot themselves in the foot, they try to convince Sony to do it too just so the can absolve MS.
no exclusives means no competition to provide outstanding games. It means rehashed releases that will be up to a certain standard, and take no risks because no risks are necessary or justified.
It means, games pass, and services, and microtransactions, and parceled out gaming.
There is not really a lot of differences in the platforms as it is. Except for Nintendo who is doing their thing in the hybrid market... both Ps and XB are virtually the same. Its like Toshiba vs Panasonic for VHS VCR... both played the same tapes but one had slightly better features when it came to recording settings. Then later it was DVD players and then bluray players. all of which can play the same stuff... what sets them apart is the brand, the price and the bells and whistles.
Competition is still there. In fact, most have more than one. Maybe more if there are more people in the house.
Completely missing the point, the difference with videogames is there is a difference, games are the difference.
A whole paragraph to say nothing, thats quite an achievement
@jin
True but xbox might not be around console wise next gen this gen they have shown 0 reason to buy there console so next gen going game only would be in there wheel house.
Nintendo just hangs out back with crap hardware but alot of sales.
@light
They are tossing out new series consoles disc less versions at that they did not show off there next xbox consoles.
They would never say there done with consoles when tossing out a new model that would impact sales.
But saying its there last 2 years from now when the hype train is going for the ps6 would be the time that is just common sense.
When i said is true the only thing xbox console exclusive is there gamepass console games that is it everything else is on pc and or ps5
Nintendo survives on the strength of their first party titles, and I'm fine with that, they put out some great games. I just wish they weren't so stingy and didn't charge an arm and a leg for 5 year old games and ageing hardware.
When AAA games cost on average 150-200 million than there will be a lot less platform exclusives. In next 5 years many Xbox major brands will be playable on playstation and vice versa. These games are already getting released on Pc so what's another platform
Seriously some people need to get out of the console war mindset yo understand the reality of gaming buisnes in 2024 and moving forward. Spiderman 2 cost 300 million. GTA6 is rumored to cost half of billion. Halo infinite was 500 million
That halo budget was for the slpspace engine for halo games that lasted one game then that team left lol what a dam waist.
They are also tossing a billion to gta6 even though in the trailer you can see gta 5 buildings/cars/people/signs/st ores/roads even the cars act the same was it to much to give us back gta 4 physics?
The game budget is going up but the game quality does not represent that at all
Again that gta 6 trailer no weather shown no smoke from the tires no ray tracing no proper shadows shit did not look like it was ready for 2026.
So that muliplat deal is not for the game budgets as the was not a issue in the older day's when halo had more bioms coop better mp with forge or when playstaion has more exclusive on ps3 than xbox almost beat Nintendo.
Its now all about making billions of dollars a race to the next trillion dollar company greed greed though m$ is already there.
Those Spiderman 2 development costs are so bloated, I honestly can't see where they spent the money, considering they're building upon the first game and can re-use a lot of assests.
I couldn't agree more, exclusivity isn't the issue, otherwise no one would have a reason to buy consoles (it's the reason I've only bought a Switch this gen). Its developers not reigning in their costs, the expenditure is so great and sometimes it's hard to see where they spent the money. AAA gaming developer's bad practices are causing the issues.
So dam true You think the law would step in soon show were its all going just like starwars needing over 80million for 40min episode.
Alot must be going to hookers/blow/shrooms then there pocket
Consoles are going to die. They're being kept alive by the older generations while the new generation is all about PC gaming. Stop thinking like it's 1992.... These companies have competing storefronts and services on top of first party games.... Plenty to compete over without having to drag people for another 500 dollar console that has 3 games worth of parity.
Selling consoles is not the future of determining who is "leading" the industry. The old model is dying.
Yes, lets play Gran Turismo 7 on PC and Xbox... or Demons souls remake, or FF7 Rebirth, or FF16, or Spider man 2, or Rise of the ronin, or Stellar blade, or Astros playroom, or Bloodborne, or Horizon call of mountain, or Astro bot
Lets play Zelda TOTK on PC and Xbox... or Mario Kart, Mario party, Pokemon games, Donkey kong, Kirby, Super mario games...etc
Some journalists tend to defend Microsoft decisions with illogical arguments to show us the Xbox as a competitive platform on the demand of Mr. Spencer
Xbox - literally zero exclusives, all games on PC day one. Some of them later ported to PS, Switch
Playstation - some games ported later to PC
Switch - all first party games are exclusives
Do you see the difference?
"Playstation - some games ported later to PC"
Try most of their games on PC right now.
More likely most of PC games on PS5 right now. PC started this leakage of exclusives during PS3 era with the games like Diablo 3, TES, Doom, Wolfenstein, Half life orange box etc.
Lets play GT7 on PC while i wait till the new Doom come out day one on PS5
Still a few missing but that wasn't his agreement...good job making it about something else.
"More likely most of PC games on PS5 right now."
Ok that's been a thing for awhile, you're deflecting. Most of Sony's games are on PC right now, these are just the facts. Fight the facts not me.
I think GT7 is one the few games that's not on PC right now. Doom is a known multiplatform game.
Yes, for me as a customer its a good thing Sony putting some of old games to PC when the games stop selling. You just act like Sony going the route MS does, you dont want to hear the truth i guess. Xbox have zero exclusives and even first party Doom coming to PS5 day one, its not multiplatform developer anymore
Most games starting from what generation? There's a lot of ps5 games and a few ps4 games...
" you dont want to hear the truth i guess."
You're talkin to the wrong person.
Idc I have both platforms. Xbox games on PC doesn't bother me I don't play PC I play them on consoles. I'm not bothered by stuff like that, like you are.
"its not multiplatform developer anymore"
Wut....
I own PS5, XSX and even Switch, doesnt change the fact Xbox collecting dust since i finished Forza motorsport which will be on PS5 later i bet, as every Xbox game
Every Xbox game? Then why release a new gen Xbox? Why release a new console if everything's goin over, that's what I wanna know.
"trust me"
Someone on N4g? Yeah how bout not.
Naw that's not a good reason. What you said doesn't make sense. Halo, Gears Fable etc main headliners won't be on PS. They need to sell the new console still.
What you said is not true, it is your wish only to justify Xbox purchase. I bet there will be Halo, GeoW and Fable on PS in the near future.
https://www.playstation.com...
Also add Horizon Forbidden West and Ragnarok. Most of Sony's games this gen are on PC now. I thought y'all knew this? Extreme denial. That's leaves out GT7 and Astro Bot.
@piroh
Whats not true? Sure keep the hopium alive I guess. They need to sell consoles and by putting specifically Gears and their other titles on PS would hurt their console sales full stop and ppl would have 0 reason to pick up the new Xbox. You gotta use your head just a little bit bro.
There will always be ps5 and then ps6 games not on pc at release. They will eventually make their way there, but then new games will come out to take their place as exclusives. As long a playstation developes hardware they will have exclusives of at least 1 year.
Nintendo and PlayStation not only have great systems but their exclusives often feel more creative and reach a higher level than xboxs
Despite being a huge halo fan and a gears fan during the 360 when gamepass came.about the quality was on a fast decline it's content over quality
Wow how surprising, no call for Nintendo to put it's games on xbox or PlayStation, or xbox to put any new games on PlayStation. And no, games from publishers they bought that were going to be on PlayStation anyway don't count.
And xbox putting games on PlayStation and Nintendo works because they have market share and their owners still buy games.
There is zero point to putting games on xbox where people don't buy anything and they only have ten percent global market share.
Third party games sell less than 20 percent of total units versus PlayStation, even less when a game is on all three platforms.
Shawn Layden put it best. The big tent pole games are at their significance at the beginning of a gen, but a little less near the half way or end of a gen because you set the sales momentum with the best games.
That's why Xbox had momentum at the end of 2021 with Halo and Forza. All got lost in 2022 with the delay of Redfall and Starfield. While PS released Horizon and GoW in 2022 which pulled them waaaay ahead of Xbox.
The ones who say exclusives don't matter anymore are seriously wrong, dead wrong. As I said they shift the console sales momentum in your favor especially when you couple it with a major third party release l like COD. That's why in 2022 COD leading the charge that holiday for PS along side Gow an established IP was a deadly combo. Something MS did during the 360 days. Cod on top of whatever game Xbox was releasing that holiday also.
That's why they've been having tug of war with COD because it brings in money and console sales.
In all honesty Sony will see those Switch sales and probably put smaller family friendly games on the platform when they see more green from Switch, expect more of that. This is exactly how it started with Xbox. PC first, then Switch with games like Ori, 007, Cup Head, Banjo etc now PS will follow suit.
But their big game system selling games will remain exclusive (so they can sell consoles) then come to PC year later or so. Basically they'll have timed exclusives.
"That's why Xbox had momentum"
Lol. Nah they didn't have that really at any point. Not sure how they would even gain any at this point. Selling less than the Xbox One is pretty telling
I hope it hypothetically Sony did make their games multiplatform there’s a massive outcry for Nintendo to make their games third party
Ohhhhh…yeah, they won’t will they
Whenever Microsoft does something it’s only Sony that needs to then do the same.
It's only when Xbox does something out of desperation that games media acts like this is the way the industry should be heading. There loser should set the agenda.
Why is that?
''It's only when Xbox does something out of desperation that games media acts like this is the way the industry should be heading''
Bingo!!
Tomorrow Phil could announce that xbox is no more and all these journos and gaming media outlet will be writing pieces on how this is the best decision ever for MS and their green brand and how Sony should follow the same steps lmao.
What the hell were you reading when things were rumored to go full Multiplat for Xbox back in February? What positive spin and articles are you talkin about? I've seen no such thing especially on YT it was pure doom.
I swear y'all love making stuff up.
Exactly. It's ONLY when Xbox has an issue, then everyone should follow suit. The least successful console brand is not the one to follow. Ever.
Fortunately, Nintendo and Sony stick to their guns and do their own thing.
Playstation has followed Xbox's lead enough as it is, I don't want them to become more like them.
I think Sony realizes they need to hold on to exclusives. If they don't, Nintendo would be the only console worth getting. Otherwise you could play all PlayStation and Xbox games on PC. I think Sony is smart enough not to follow that strategy.
Not on Xbox
Because grrreeeeed! Next question.
Because there is no competition on the digital space for consoles. Do you think Sony would charge this price if there were alternative digital stores for Playstation games?
Unless the game is one I want at launch like say Tales of Arise I will buy it day one. Most of the time I will just wait for the game to go on sale when its kicking around the $20-$40 area. I don't go digital unless I have to I bought FF7 remake and RE3 digital because of the COVID shit even then I should have waited for those games to go on sale but I really wanted them. I bought KH 3 for $20 on PS4 and even then the price is even cheaper I have seen it on Amazon kicking around $14 new. As for digital being the same price as physical it comes down to greed it costs more to print that disc of the game then it does putting it up on a digital store. I understand a company like Sega, Capcom, Namco all have to pay Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo and Steam a fee to sell the game on their digital store fronts. This is also another reason why I do my homework on a new ip or installment in a franchise I don't want a $90 Canadian dud sitting on my shelf. I learned my lesson with Cyberpunk I will not be taken again like that what a waste of cash.
Also Nintendo excuse for their expensive Switch games was the game card costs...but digital is the same price.