Seagate Announce M.2 Drive that Transfers Faster than PS5’s SSD at SG21

Releasing in the Summer of 2021, Seagate have announced the FireCuda 530 M.2 SSD at SG21.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Damn I'm hyped

[GamerRN]

Finally something compatible with the PS5

[VenomUK]

Maybe this will be first on Sony’s approved list! I’ve rented some games and could do with being able to install them all without juggling space.

[GamerRN]

I'm just really shocked it's coming up on a year and still no storage solution... Personally I expected 3 months maybe. I'm sure once they figure it out it'll sell like crazy and be hard to find just to make life harder for us.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

Samsung 980 Pro has been out longer than the Seagate drive.

[TallDarknWavy]

To spend more on a hard drive than a PS5?
K -_-

[waverider]

The price... Is more expensive then a PS5!

[tombfan]

And that's why we'll should be grateful for the consoles being at 500dlls... those ssd aren't cheap...

[waverider]

Its amazing what Sony was able to put on the PS5. Something that you can get for 399! Just crazy.

[tombfan]

Yes, and that's just the SSD, if you count the whole pack, it's one expensive console to manufacture. (The same applies with xbox series x)

[neutralgamer1992]

waverider

That's what so many gamers don't understand the kind of specs that both Microsoft and Sony used for these next in consoles, there's no way literally possible to have those specs on a PC for $499

The faster SSD's that match ps5 can cost almost half the price of ps5 itself. Yes PC gamers can have huge advantages like modding but to build a decent PC that can do at minimum 1440p with 60FPS you are looking a t spending atleast $1000 if not more

[phoenixwing]

You are correct I spent around that much for my pc and all the extras I bought put it at even more. However I find it worth every penny

[neutralgamer1992]

phoenixwing

Definitely I think if you can afford to build a great PC and buy a ps5 you can get best of both platforms. Pc in itself is a great open platform. I just like consoles simply because it's easy to hook up and play and they are noob friendly for gamers like me

[amazinglover]

Average users isn't also funding the development and building of the hardware as well as buying these parts in massive bulk.

Yes you can't build something anywhere close for $499 you also didn't pay to have millions of these built at the same time.

[Neonridr]

and those prices will fall as all technology does.

[barom]

I just bought a $1100 PC that has a 5700G + RTX 3060. I started up Battlefield 4 (a 7 year old game) thinking I could totally max it out at 1440p but nope, seem to run pretty choppy at ultra high 1440p (ultrawide) settings. I was thoroughly disappointed.

Still not too mad though cause I get to play old school gems like Castlevania Lords of Shadow at max settings when PS3/360 version was barely playable.

[Amplitude]

@barom:

Hey dude. Something's wrong. Your RTX 3060 should be maxing out BF4 at 1440p with above 120fps pretty much consistently. My 2080 Super has absolutely no issues whatsoever. Maybe reinstall you NVidia drivers. Is it a laptop?

[Tapani]

You are probably running battlefield 4 with your 5600G iGPU instead of RTX3060. Why did you buy 5700G instead of a normal CPU?

If it’s a laptop, I get it.

[annoyedgamer]

Something is wrong. I have BF4 running at 1440p Ultrawide on a GTX 1060.

[barom]

I’ll give it a shot again. Also the 5700g came with the computer. I bought the HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop TG01-2176. I thought of selling the 5700g and buy something better since the 5700g goes on eBay for the price of a 5900x.

Anyway, I’ll give it a try again, maybe there’s something I missed. Haven’t had a lot of time to play with it yet.

[aquamala]

nope, 1TB is $240 and bigger than what’s in PS5, PS5 SSD is only 825GB

[seanpitt23]

Do you really need anything faster than what’s in the ps5 at this point… games are loading in a couple seconds… if you want it faster than that you are just impatient 😂

[Babadook7]

It’s not loading times that made Sony spend the extra $ on a fast SSD. It’s asset streaming. R&C is a good early example.

[Bobertt]

That is because your comparing it to the 4tb drive. The 1tb drive which is the one you should compare it to is less than half of a PS5.

[TeamIcoFan]

And so it begins.
Other manufacturer's will follow and try tom compete by undercutting prices, and in the end, we consumers win.

[isarai]

Which i why it's a big deal to me personally that PS5 allows standard off the shelf drives. Just wish they would open that up and release the requirements so i can start scouting.

[Kados]

There already are NVMe's that are faster than the PS5. This is nothing new.

[akaFullMetal]

Exactly there are faster SSD's than ps5 at this point on PC. However Ps5 will be able push data faster combo'd with it's custom io up to 17 -22 gb/s when compressed.

[Kados]

ROFL, where did you hear that garbage from? There has never been any official statements or spec sheets that support those numbers.

The PS5 caps out at 9GB/s compressed. With Directstorage on PC, current 7GB/s raw drives like the Samsung 980 Pro will reach 14GB/s.

[akaFullMetal]

At kados

Mark Cerny said that with good compression the ps5 has a max up to 22 gb/s and with Oodle kraken and textures they have close to that with 17 gb/s or higher at times

[Kados]

@akaFullMetal: Link?

[akaFullMetal]

At kados

https://www.google.com/amp/...

https://www.notebookcheck.n...

[Teflon02]

Kados you seem to not understand the advantages of being able to make custom hardware. Sony has made it where essentially you can get almost 4 times the speeds through compression as they have a dedicated chip to work on compression meaning unlike a PC where you don't have dedicated compression it will be an advantage for ps5 which isn't on the SSD but the PC vs ps5 build setup

[Kados]

@Teflon02: Having custom hardware does not mean you can toss around random numbers without providing official data to support it. Calling someone out for doing so, does not mean i do not understand the benefits of custom hardware. Using damage control accusatory logic like that just further hurts the argument.

"The PS5 actually has 500TF of graphical power"
"No it doesn't"
"You seem to not understand the advantages of being able to make custom hardware"

See the issue? Sources matter. Fanboy logic gets you nowhere.

@akaFullMetal:
Thanks for providing links.

[MoonConquistador]

ROFL@Kados

Someone got owned lol

[Tapani]

Pulling numbers from your rear. 9GB is the theoretical max for PS5 and it certainly is not getting those transfer rates constantly. DirectStorage is coming to Windows 11 this year, and essentially make PCs capable of the same IO tricks. Everybody wins because game design becomes unified and better.

Once we get DX12U games working on Win11 using DirectStorage, that’s when next gen hits PC.

I’m lucky I have 1tb nvme, RX6000-series gpu and Zen 3 on a X570 platform.

[gamer7804]

Sure but PC really needs a quick resume for multiple titles. That really saves the load times.

[Shiore2u]

It's called alt-tab.

[Teflon02]

Shiore2u. That eats too much resources depending on the game. I think they mean like a save stat type feature. Not come out the game and go back when ready. I've tried launching multiple games and while I could get Overwatch and Genshin running at the same time and alt tab. They eat at each other's performance. PC does need a fix for sleeping and games more than a quick resume as PS5 doesn't have and doesn't need. Though it loads games like FFVII in legit like 6or so seconds from the system UI if you use activity cards so it's easy to ignore. But alot of games performance tank after a PC is in sleep mode. There does need to be a universal fix if possible as I know you could just say it's on the devs to make sure it runs right. But something in the windows system should be able to fix it if modified

[Father__Merrin]

No such thing can happen you can't turn on your pc and go into a game

[gamer7804]

@Shiore2u lol alt-tab is not even close to the same thing you can shut the power off completely from your xbox and its suspended for multiple games.

[gamer7804]

@/knightedhollow. Your pc is still on and in low power mode. Totally different

[RedDevils]

@gamer7804 Sleep on PC and Rest mode on Ps4/PS5 is exactly the same. Both use little power when idle don't let console fanboy blind you.

[gamer7804]

@reddevils I’m talking about quick resume on Xbox totally different than rest mode on ps4 and ps5

[StarLink]

Can you share a link? Always trying to find one close too or better than the PS5 at a good price but never can.

[NobleRed]

Correct. Western Digital SN850 or the Samsung980 Pro.

[ShadowWolf712]

There are RAID configs that can clock in at higher transfer speeds, but there haven't been single commercial SSDs that can transfer at a rate to compensate for the speed + throughput.

[Grievous]

Theoretically faster but in practice they fall short. It's not just about raw peak throughput. PS5 SSD has a 12 channel controller to consistently handle the speed most of these SSDs have a 6-8 channel controller.

[Fntastic]

Already have a 960GB 905p optane drive which has insane 4k (small file) IOPS for loading games etc

[buffig]

The Samsung 980 has something like 7000mb transfer speeds which should meet the spec of the PS5 when we are finally able to add them. That's currently £127. Fingers crossed it's on the compatible list

[Teflon02]

I literally have in my cart waiting for the day it's confirmed lol

[SinisterKieran]

as long as the its sold at half msrp, i'll be able to get one :D i'll need at least the 2 TB one.

[MADGameR]

It may be faster than the PS5's SSD in terms of transfer speed. But there is NOT one PC that is able to do the decompression that the PS5 does so by default the PS5 is STILL the fastest.

[uth11]

I have a couple of pS4 games that load faster off external storage (mechanical HD) on a PS5 than they do off nvme SSD on my PC.

That's insane! There's too many bottlenecks on PC that keep the SSDs from performing anywhere near where they should

[Destiny1080]

microsoft are bringing direct storage to Pc sometime in 2021, but it could still be years before developers actually start to use it on Pc

just look at resident evil loading off a nvme on Pc vs a PS5
PS5 1.5 secs
Pc 9.0 secs

[Kavorklestein]

PC had tons of bottlenecks and issues. People praise PC to high hell, but it has it's quirks and issues and compatibility and driver/setting/DLSS/random wtf factors that keep it from being anywhere near as effective at being attractive to anyone but the most hardcore and/or wealthy gamers.

[gold_drake]

500 quid????

[aaronaton]

That's great and all, but PC developers won't be able to fully utilize this for another 10yrs. Steam surveys indicate that the majority of gamers still have games installed on a HDD.
For instance, you couldn't port R&C to PC as it requires all users to have a super fast SSD and IO.

[cd1]

In theory the PC wouldn't require an SSD and IO to play R&C if it had enough RAM to load everything required into it but I get your point.

[Magog]

That doesn't take into account the I/O and hardware decompression advances of the PS5. With kraken and Oodle hardware decompression PS5 has a transfer rate of 17.8 GB/S

[tombfan]

950 for a 4TB card T_T

[Mikeyy]

$490? For fucks sake guys...

[anast]

But will it play Space Invaders at a 1000 fps?

[XxINFERNUSxX]

Rather stick with the SAMSUNG 980 PRO , it's about the same speeds and bit cheaper. If the lazy ass game devs don't take advantage of the PC's nvme drive speeds what's the point? I mean they could have all done this way before the PS5 was even a thing. They have and still have pcie 3.0 nvme drives that are still very fast, they could have used that to their adavantage. My 970 Evo is still very fast, game load times are great but they could have been much improved if again, game devs took advantage of that speed.

[dangerousbrian0]

You have to admit that it is funny & coincedental that Seagate were quick enough & able enough in making a 2TB & a 4TB M.2 MVME SSD for PS5 as well as a 500GB & a 1TB version yet they can only manage to make a 1TB SSD Expansion Card for the Series X & Series S

[RGB]

Well... It doesn't, its raw speed might, but PS5 isn't running raw.

[Rimeskeem]

Honestly, not as expensive as I thought it would be. Buying a 2tb expansion with a PS5 will still be a lot cheaper than getting a PC that could do the same.

[isarai]

It would be even cooler when PC games start designing around these SSDs, but doing so would need an SSDs for minimum requirements, and most PC gamers don't have SSDs so i don't see that happening for a long time.

[jznrpg]

Until games are programmed and enough people have them they won’t be able to take advantage of that setup like PS5 is already doing . The issue with PC there is too many have 1060s with Older SSDs and devs have to accommodate for those people so they can’t design it to use the fastest SSDs in the game design . They can get fast load times but that’s about it .

[franwex]

As expected-it’s not like hardware wouldn’t advance. Can the OS/BIOS actually take advantage of it like the PS5?

I doubt it.

[ghostliving]

Faster than PS5's SSD, Expensive than PS5 Console.

[Miacosa]

This should work well in the PS5 expansion slot nicely once activated.

[Neonridr]

only a matter of time.

[mkis007]

People keep posting these things as if its the baselines like ps5's is.

The ps5 has one spec no minimum req, it's also custom hardware to take max advantage of the ssd speed. It's going to take a complete purpose built mobo ram ssd cpu gpu combo with software to match the ps5. Loading timed are only one piece of the puzzle, asset streaming requires a lot more than just a fast ssd speed.

[Neonridr]

they fail to specify that it's $490 for 2TB which is over twice the available space of the PS5 HD.

[TheColbertinator]

A good chunk of cash for that SSD speed. Sony should just replicate the current custom SSD to add externally.

[Anomander]

Just load the game into the RTX 3090 Memory! Plenty fast enough! LOL

[Bender6502]

Rather than continually posting what is the fastest SSD, or does this beat Sony or DX12U. Shouldn't we be considering whether what we have will be fast enough given the other system components of next gen consoles? And the answer is....

[SethBrundlefly]

That's nice. What about the rest of the input/output where you're installing it?