Warframe Dev: PS4 Eliminates Compatibility Issues, Great Option to Switch to for Low-End PC Owners

"Much has been made about how Warframe developer Digital Extremes managed to get the free to play title from PC to PlayStation 4 in a matter of months, thanks to the latter's ease of development. But the question is, does the PlayStation 4 has some kind of edge over the current release? Perhaps some new gameplay and mission types?"

[GraveLord]

FYI: A low-end PC would be about $400. A PS4 would completely obliterate that in terms of performance.

[B-radical]

Get a low end pc wait one year for a last gen gpu buy it cheap......you got yourself a stew man

Yusm but he was talking about performance

[dredgewalker]

But they would still not have the Sony exclusive games I enjoy as a PS gamer. I play pc games too but console gaming is just as fun.

[GraveLord]

If you're a low-end PC gamer, odds are that you're not a super hardcore PC guy. Making the switch to PS4 will be easy for these people. These people are the ones that don't upgrade their GPU or CPU, ever. They're the ones who got a PC for their birthday/christmas a few years ago and it just happens to play games.(barely)

[Azmatik]

For a decent mobo that supports am3+ ur looking at $120. For 8gb ddr3 ram ur lookin at $60. For just a quad core phenom its aprox $60. For a 750 watt PSU approx $80. Ane a radeon 5850 lets say is another $60. Now that pc includes no wifi no blutooth no blu-ray drive and NO case which we can add another $70 for the case. Now ur trying to tell me that pc i just built is as good as a ps4 lol dream on.

[M-M]

@Gravelord,

It's scary how accurately you described my situation, have a dual core laptop that I got two years ago as a late Christmas gift and it barely plays game lmfao.

[starchild]

So in other words the PC version on a decent gaming rig is still going to be superior. But we knew that.

The PS4 version will be pretty equivalent to the PC version on highest settings, minus the fact that the PC version can offer higher texture filtering, better anti-aliasing, higher display resolutions and smoother frame-rates.

Still, it should be a great experience either way.

[ShinMaster]

Current low-end PC gamers can UPGRADE to a PS4.
It's cheaper.

[ABizzel1]

@GraveLord

These guys have praised the PS4 on several occasions, and I think he meant if you're consistently a low-end PC gamer, then you're better off buying a PS4 instead of upgrading your PC at this point, which is true in most cases outside of the extra benefits and connectivity PC offers.

But if you're looking for a games platform than dollar for dollar there's nothing better than the PS4 in the low - mid range budget (hardware wise at least), and with the ease of porting you can be sure many PC games will find their way to the PS4 and possibly XB1 this generation.

I don't think he's downplaying PS4 just saying it's best for low - mid gaming.

[B-radical]

If you already own a low end budget pc then your better of getting a 400 dollar gpu....unless you want more exclusives

[Reverent]

@B-radical, tell me... Do you expect someone with a low-medium end laptop that happens to play games, to be able to upgrade its GPU? Or, do you expect someone who happens to own a decent desktop PC to upgrade their GPU when odds are, they don't even know what a "GPU" is?

The point of this entire story, is that casual gamers who play games every now and then on their computers, are better off buying a console (the PS4 in this case) because it's a much easier and inexpensive choice than to upgrade their PC.

[gamernova]

Oh so a low end pc is 400? Interesting. Well whatevs. Didn't expect the consoles to be able to compete with pcs anyway. People love to use "optimization" and talk about how games won't take advantage of the beast pc hardware but they forget pc gamers can not only game at resolutions beyond 1080 (quite some time ago and it includes 4k) but pc has its own exclusives. Consoles have their place but if people continue to pin em against pc they will continue to come up short. Especially because pc gamers tend to spend a significant amount of money on hardware.

[GraveLord]

It's not console gamers pitting them up against PCs, its the other way around.

It doesn't matter that PCs can go beyond 1080p, that takes too much power and no reasonably priced rig will be able to game at those resolutions.

[gamernova]

@gravelord That is such a lie! In the current gen, I am not going to lie, PC gamers were picking on you guys a bit. I would see it and they would take advantage of the massive difference. However, console gamers rose up as soon as next gen was revealed and were talking about how thier "optimization" would smash PC graphics and all that good stuff but it was justified. I mean PC gamers did it first, right? Well, then we hear the term "high-end pc". You guys forget about SSDs. You guys forget about resolutions beyond 1080p. You guys also forget about 120hz monitors. 60 fps is old school in the world of PC gamers.

Sure, playing at that resolution can be a tad expensive but that is a high end pc. SSDs in RAID 0 and liquid cooled pc parts.

Then console gamers will tell you "compare to a 400 dollar pc". I call bullshit. Sony is selling the consoles at a loss assuming that you will make up the real cost buying games. What is the loss? I am not sure but it's there. PC parts are not sold at a loss. They are sold as is. However, instead of buying new games...my entire steam library is still compatible :)

[insomnium2]

@nova

My PS3 library is also compatible since I keep my old HW. If you were to use that argument you would have to take the money people get from selling their PS3 into account. It wouldn't be a 400 dollar piece of HW anymore. If you say 400 dollars then you can't use the b/c as an excuse against PS4 right?

[gamernova]

@Insom, well if those people sell their consoles, they lose all of the games they accumulated during this generation. That means the advantage you used of being able to play your library because you were keeping your ps3 is gone. Also, you'd probably be selling the console at a loss too or else no one one buy it and the same goes for the games. And you buy some games for the ps4, right? Since you have no games anymore (for playstation). How much is watch dogs? Shall we assume the same 60? I pre-ordered on PC for 42. This is a common thing on PC. Did I mention untaxed 42? And you say, well, it's just 20 dollars, it is nothing. Those 20 dollars add up like you wouldn't believe. Game after game and year after year. You can definitely sell them...at a loss. Playstation plus fees and all that stuff add up too. The playstation is a low cost option but it is definitely nowhere near cheap. That is all I am saying.

[starchild]

Actually, GraveLord, I see console gamers comparing to and hating on the PC all the time. This is why it is so frustrating for PC gamers and we feel the need to correct the misinformation.

If people have a legitimate preference for consoles, that is fine. But people should be informed with the facts, not base their decision on misinformation.

Personally, I am going to continue gaming on the PC, but I am also going to get a PS4. Those two platforms will cover 95% of the games I will want to play.

Sure, in an ideal world in which I had unlimited money and time I would own all consoles, handhelds and a gaming PC. But I think two platforms is a realistic arrangement for me. Maybe I'll get an XB1 down the line when the price drops and there are more games I want.

[DigitalRaptor]

@ Starchild

Well said. Isn't that the truth.

Misinformation about PC gaming everywhere. But, PC gamers also act as though everyone who games on PC has a high-end rig, which is simply not true. So it goes both ways.

[thisismyaccount]

The PC has its own exclusives ?!... are you talking about Left for Dead and the likes... or the Sims Online ?! Which IP can be >only< played on the PC?

There is nothing, i´v spent past gen on the PC (skipped PS360) and.. there was NOT one FRIGGIN game that you could play only on the PC, apart from Guil Wars 1 that is...

Thanks to this stupid decision of mine, i nearly lost my interest in games. Going back to consoles... (Mass Effect Trilogy, Bioshock "Trilogy", Dragon Age 1, Gw 1, Eq 2, Metro 2033, all the crap Crysis games, Lotro, Max Payne 3, Resident Evil 4 / 5 and soonihs 6...as you can see, i´m having a hard time to come up with enough games that i played on the pc, simply don´t remember (all of them can be played on the consoles, period (except MMORPGs)

[gamernova]

@My account, Look at you trying to troll! Lol This is your logic: PC gaming is terrible because there are a lot of games that I can play on it that I can also play on consoles. Dude, aren't those multiplats? Also, you are aware that the PC always gets the best multiplat version, right? Mods, higher possible specs...does any of that ring a bell? Civilization V. Lets not forget also who put minecraft on the map...PC gaming. Sure, xbox tried to rip it off but could you find the mod support on the 360? Hell no. L4D is not a PC exclusive. *sigh* lol I can always go down the list of awesome pc exclusives but I really don't feel like it's necessary :P

[bjmartynhak]

Totally!

And low-end PC owners would also appreciate don't have to worry with install problems, directx, drivers, Windows versions and weird crashes. (For high-end PC owners these little issues I mentioned are usually easily managed).

[aquamala]

a low-end PC gamer probably doesn't want to pay $50 a year to play online

[DinoNYC]

MMORPGs. 'Nuff said.

[CheexInk]

Nuff said about what? You realize MMORPGs are only a minute fraction of all the multiplayer games on the PC right? And honestly the trend is towards F2P even with MMORPGs now.

[Cmk0121]

a dev whos high on the ps4 compares it to low end PC and its refuted eh? im and xbox guy and that means the xbox one would be an even lower end PC...SHEESH this guy pulls no punches

[NewsForge]

An Ultra low end GPU of 2014 will be stronger than a PS4 + Xbox One combined multiplied by 3. STAY WITH YOU BEASTLY PC'S PEOPLE!!! Consoles are nothing more than a huge step back.

[Reverent]

That's entirely ignorant. I've recently upgraded my PC, and while yes, it's insanely more powerful than what next gen consoles will be, I still plan to buy the PS4 day one, because let's face it... Sony Exclusives.

[scott182]

Why do people "game" in the first place? For the games!! I have never played a game anywhere close to the experience I had with the last of us on my PC. The PS4 will be more than sufficient for Sony's devs to make new amazing experiences. I "game" for the friggin games, and for me Sony always takes it a step forward in that regards.

[kingduqc]

Completely obliterate is quite a strong statement. Considering any 130$ gpu on that low end pc make it the other way around and that's before release.. in 3-4 year from now ps4 will just be dust in the wind when it come to any kind of performance statement.

[CheexInk]

This situation is pretty implausible though. If you're a "low-end" PC gamer then you're probably in that situation for a reason that doesn't take graphics or performance into account. They likely just have a computer as a matter of course and aren't able or have no interest in buying gaming hardware. Either that or they have a small budget but prefer the other perks of the PC platform.

[s8anicslayer]

Last week this guy said "PS4 let's us bring over high end visuals"! http://n4g.com/news/1320926... and now it's a low end PC alternative? WTF?

[iamnsuperman]

That isn't what he said

"“I think if PC players have lower-end PCs, the PS4 will be a great option for them to switch"

He is saying that people who have low end PC wants t switch/upgrade then get a PS4 if you don't want to spend a lot

[s8anicslayer]

@iamnsuperman

But that is what I said

[Ilovetheps5]

s8anicslayer,

I think there is a difference in what he said and what you said. Basically the way he said it implies that it'd be a cheap upgrade as opposed to the PS4 just being a low end PC. So, it isn't an alternative to a low end PC. He says that it'd be good option for the people who currently have low end PCs.

[AceBlazer13]

Nice blog on the $60 price tag for video games.

[Jury]

Finally someone got it

[Wizziokid]

It's an alternative for those with a low-end pc who can't run the game well on PC.

AKA

If you can't run the game well the PS4 version is a good alternative as it runs the game on the best settings.

[Minato-Namikaze]

I dont think thats what he's saying. If you have a low end PC now and want to upgrade and you dont have alot of money then you could get a PS4 to get High end PC graphics.

[Belking]

No, that's not what he's saying. I hate to break it to you guys but neither ps4 or xbox-one will have high end pc graphics. At least not right now. PCs will always be two steps ahead.

[Ilovetheps5]

Sure it won't be high end graphics, but it will be better than what they currently have. I think that's what he's saying.

[Corpser]

He did not say it's a great option for mid or high end pc owners

[StanSmith]

This is why I'm not being dragged into the hype of either Next Gen consoles. There is just too much BS floating around from both Sony and MIcrosoft. I did have a preorder for both but cancelled them.

It's not like there is a rush to get them seen as all the games (except exclusives) will be releasing on PS3 and 360 anyway.

[GraveLord]

He's saying PS4 is like a high-end PC so its a great alternative for low-end PC gamers.(Those on a budget)

[Xsilver]

can u read he's saying if u have a low end pc switching to the ps4 will provide high end pc graphics for a low cost smh guys read.

[xReDeMpTiOnx]

Inb4 people take what he said out of context and use it for a war :/

[dredgewalker]

Too late :P

[gameseveryday]

The keyword here is 'Option'. He is not downplaying the PS4 or anything.

[windblowsagain]

Go play warframe on PC, You don't need a big PC to run it tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

No real draw distance. You can max this out easily on much lower end comps.

[impet25]

Yea without nvidia physx.

[windblowsagain]

Most things in physx you can do without it.

I mean the Mafia Physx was lol tbh.

[starchild]

Yeah, but the Nvidia PhysX is not going to be available on the PS4 either. It's an extra feature for those with Nvidida graphics cards.

[Killa78]

I'm pretty sure he's just reinforcing the value of the ps4. Good specs at a reasonable price.

[DaGR8JIBRALTAR]

Game looks and plays mediorce...but what do you expect from the creators of dark sector. Uggh...I hate even saying those two words.

[LAZL0-Panaflex]

Hell yeah! Dark sector sucked big time. Beyond horrible. Quantum theory was probably worse though.

[Bolts]

As if anyone gives a damn about Warframe. When the PS4 launches there will be so many quality free to play games available that he will be lucky to see a dime. I wonder what's he's going to say then?

[r21]

Oh hey, he's talking bout me. Hahahaha....oh man, made myself a bit sad :C Anyways, looking forward to playing this on PS4. On my PC, the performance is crap!

[sandman224]

From what I understand, low end PC users that get a ps4 will be an upgrade. We will see when the console is released.

[MidnytRain]

Yeah, but they're... totally not the same thing...

[Gster]

You may also find this pretty interesting
http://www.forbes.com/sites...

[Fireseed]

One thing everyone here needs to kind of learn, is that in terms of specs the PS4 and X1 are comprabale to medium end and low end computers respectively. The reason why you have so much better visuals on the console versions seemingly is because the developers know what specs are in the system and can get a HUGE amount of performance out of their hardware because they know what everyone will have. Where as on a PC you have to make it work on a large numbers of different configurations and hardware.

TL;DR Consoles are as powerful as low and medium end PC's but get better performance cause devs can work more closely with the standardized hardware of a console.

[Somebody]

So....who still thinks the next gen consoles ripping off more PC hardware, the very architecture no less, will have a beneficial side effect for the PC? Did Cerny actually say PC ports will easier and better or was it the assumptions of journalists on that first announcement?

All I hear now is that it'll be easier to for indie devs to make games for the PS4. Other PC games can be easily port to the PS4 and now it's a better option for those with low end PCs. Blizzard is making a "superior" version of Diablo 3 for the consoles while doing little to calm the PC fans. Some of the devs even goaded PC gamers to beg them to bring their future next-gen console exclusive F2Ps to the PC (as opposed to before when it was the PC gamers who approached them first with some kind of petition).

[starchild]

You're being overly negative for no reason.

The PC will still have the best graphics and performance of any platform. It will also still have many of its own exclusives due to the openness of the platform, the superior performance or simply because some types of games work better with keyboard and mouse.

Most importantly, though, is that more and more games will become multiplatform. And those games will look and run better on PC. With the PC, PS4 and XB1 all having such similar x86 instruction set architecture and standard PC graphics cards and cpus, porting will become much easier and cheaper. There will be no reason not to put a 3rd party game on all three platforms.

[Somebody]

I'm being negative because of what happened when the PS3 and 360 came out. Consoles that can do what the PC does for a fraction of the price. Game devs jumped ship in droves.

Just look at this article alone. It's basically telling people with low end PC users to switch to the PS4. How is that good for the PC? Having a similar architecture and better porting doesn't mean the PC will see a lot of games coming its way. We assumed it will but we don't really know what Sony and MS planned for the PC for us, do we? What happens when suddenly there's an AMD exclusive tech that made games more tied to the consoles?

[SpecialK]

Consoles do represent good value for money. A launch PS4 will out PC's which cost way in excess for some time.

Even now consoles this gen just about hold their own, and can be bought ridiculously cheap.

Personally I switched to PC gaming a while back as the wait for next gen was getting frustrating, but the choice between an upgrade or a console is pretty hard right now.

Go for a console, and your set for a few years. Go for a pc and you get better visuals, but at quite a cost, especially at the start of a new gen.

[christrules0041]

Can you imagine when Titans will be considered low end in a couple of years? I mean once they get stacked RAM that will eliminate any bandwidth issues. I could see DDR3 going a long way if they figure out how to cool the stacked RAM properly. I believe it's called Volta but don't quote me on that one. =P

Edit: Did some research. It is called Volta

[PlayStation_4]

I have a high-end PC (£1670 custom) and I am switching over to the PS4 this gen, midway through I will go back to PC for multiplats though, and upgrade my PC

[Victorvondoom8]

Ps4 would crush the average Pc gaming rig.....

[thisismyaccount]

I´m playing currenlt Crysis 3 (sadly...) at 2560 by 1080p at high on a 6870HD, steady at 30fps.

If the PS4 is based on a heavily modified 7870 (downclocked to 800mhz, but with up to 64? GPGPU units and 6 more ACE "units" than a 7970...), then i can asure you, the PS4 gpu won´t have troubles at all rendering.

I´m more concerned about the CPU, do we have a comparison more or less, i just hope it´s faster than a i5 750 3.33Ghz (which believe it or not, is still good for todays games).

[mysteryraz11]

consoles just have the better exclusives, thats a fact, pc cant even keep its exclusive ips, sony and microsoft are taking them, no reason to buy a strong ass pc when it seems only the multiplats take advantage of the power.